Runaway to the Stars: Page 228

When you finally get a jab in at your lame boss

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Adam reaches up and grabs Talita's antler, yanking on it hard enough to swing her head around. He smiles smugly.

Adam: So you can't feel this?

Talita recoils from him with a hand in front of her face, staring in shock. Yao gapes and then looks away fearfully from the two of them.

Talita: What the fuck⁇

He throws his hands up defensively, still smiling.

Adam: Hey, calm down!I thought you said it doesn’t hurt!

Talita's face bristles in rage.

Talita: What!? That doesn't mean you can YANK on me!

Runaway to the Stars: Page 228

When you finally get a jab in at your lame boss

Because I strongly suspect the comment section is going to get heated: please remember, Adam cannot read your threats, but I have to. Don't say anything overly graphic. Also, while discussions are great fun, please be courteous. I do prune comment threads when they become pointless inflammatory arguments, but I'd prefer if I didn't have to.

Transcript

Adam reaches up and grabs Talita's antler, yanking on it hard enough to swing her head around. He smiles smugly.

Adam: So you can't feel this?

Talita recoils from him with a hand in front of her face, staring in shock. Yao gapes and then looks away fearfully from the two of them.

Talita: What the fuck⁇

He throws his hands up defensively, still smiling.

Adam: Hey, calm down!I thought you said it doesn’t hurt!

Talita's face bristles in rage.

Talita: What!? That doesn't mean you can YANK on me!

170 thoughts on “Runaway to the Stars: Page 228

  1. Talita you NEED to go to space. Watch her not bring this up to Mel because it’s been shown in the past that they can’t handle that.

  2. mister electric. kill him

  3. Well. I wasn’t expecting THAT to be the Stupid Adam Trick I read was coming. That’s the thing about people like Adam in real life, they DO think about what they’re doing, but their thought processes and sense of right and wrong are so warped that it’s hard to predict how they’re going to come at you, at least at first. And then the MOMENT it’s too late to stop it, the whole line of their reasoning seems obvious, and you feel like kicking yourself for not having seen it coming.
    But you shouldn’t, because only someone like Adam would think that way.

  4. Rad Internet Stranger

    Ohhohoohhh that was a dumb move on Adam’s part, Talita you have every right to intimidate him into deserved submission >:0

  5. OFF WITH HIS HEAD

  6. he will be boiled

  7. jay if you kill Adam you will be reincarnated as a beautiful lotus flower

  8. oh WOW i was not expecting him to do something like that the bastard. holy shit man. i hope Talita is able to figure out how to handle this because wow heads would be rolling if that was a situation i was in. props to this page for singlehandedly making me feel more anxiety and rage at a fictional white guy than i have ever ever experienced before.

    1. also the fact that he looks SO perfectly happy and smug in the 3rd and 4th panel is so so so well done and so absolutely infuriating. get his ass talita

      1. I told myself I was gonna read all the comments before commenting, but this. That smug. So much this. The Adams of the world jsut can’t comprehend there are things they don’t have a right to do.

  9. talita my queen i will save you

  10. I also wonder how, if Adam did this to a homeworlder centaur, how different centaur cultures would react. I can’t imagine any of them being okay with it, because that looks rough on the neck at least, but I wonder what different severities of ā€˜not okay with Adam doing that’ they would have.

    1. I feel it would go very poorly for Adam.

  11. the amount of rage this page makes me feel is indescribable . adam im gonna GET !! YOU !!!!!! im going feral

  12. I don’t think any other webcomic has managed to make me feel the sheer amount of anxiety that this one has during scenes like this. Like idk something about how these tense interactions are written is really good and stressful. This is a good thing! I’m on the edge of my seat each page!! AaaaH!!!!!!!

  13. Taking bets now šŸ’µ! The next thing outta Adams mouth is gonna be something about how Talita grabbed him so its totally fair for him to do the same!

    On the bright side Jay you at least know you made an extremely successful hateable jerk XD

    1. I think so too. And he legitimately doesn’t understand the difference, because in his mind he’s never done anything wrong ever in his entire life. Regardless of where this goes next, it’s going to be on Talita to deescalate – which is realistic but so so infuriating.

      1. Rad Internet Stranger

        Spot on my friend!! People like Adam don’t know when to quit because they’ve never been told they have to, they think they’re above everyone else. Adam is a fantastically well written example of these kinds of people, well done Jay!!!

  14. HOLY SHIT WHITE BABY YOU CANNOT DO THAT.

  15. Oh no… I can see where this is going…

  16. i hope commenters can. be chill, for you jay. excellent work on all the expressions! the swirling! godddd. i’m so anxious/excited to see where this goes. we all know she’ll leave dirtball and be on the runaway crew eventually but theres so much suspense to see HOW that happens! delightful

  17. what fascinates me about adam is his sheer contempt for talita. her authority, her body, her species. he makes it clear as day he does not see her as a person worth his respect on an even person-to-person level. we can see he has overall disrespect for biomodders and GMH (which jay has explained that, on homeworld/earth, biomodders and GMH tend to exclusively be wealthy and privileged individuals, far and away from the spacer culture where being a GMH is just something that you are, and biomodding can be like getting piercings or tattoos), which he views as punching upwards. to some degree, THAT i can almost give some wiggle room for. he’s a homeworlder who clearly doesn’t know shit about spacers or the modern form of GMH and biomodding, and thinks he’s the underdog who has to swing his weight around. this is NOT to excuse his actions btw; he’s an asshole who has notably been rude to pheobe and assaulted yao by grabbing xer horns without consent (grabbing someone’s prosthetics, decorative or not, while they are being worn or handled, is assault)

    but his violent contempt for talita… is he just treating her like he does GMH? does he have a problem with aliens? with centaurs? does talita just act in a way that triggers his ableism/misogyny (she behaves in a way that reads as neurodivergent to humans, after all)? is it simply because she’s an authority figure and he isn’t? what’s his fucking problem? i’ve called him a cracker before, and truly he exemplifies the worst of white jackasses who think they’re the smartest guy in the room, but sheesh.

    1. MyUniverseinaBox

      I’d honestly chalk it up to a mixture of all those things. Probably especially because Talita has authority over him, and he clearly doesn’t like that. I think we can all agree managers and bosses suck just because of the power imbalance, but I don’t think Adam is coming at it from that point of view lol. Adam seems the type that just likes being in charge for ego reasons.

    2. I don’t have anything to add, I just want to say this is an incredible breakdown of his character! I loved reading this

    3. It’s never risen to this level, but I’ve had male employees deliberately ignore my instructions because I’m a woman. And it was always on *me* to remain calm, since I was the one in charge – and they faced no consequences, even when going against my clear instructions caused harm, because I didn’t have disciplinary power & my boss decided the entire situation was my fault. So yeah, Adam’s behavior & the Adam/Talita/Mel situation is distressingly realistic.

    4. It’s interesting, if you go way back, maybe to the first locker room scene in Chapter 1, or maybe on the characters page? But somewhere, Jay described Adam in terms that make him sound like a pretty normal homeworlder typ Human, which… is starting to hit different.

  18. Oh the gasp I gumpsed at that invasion of personal space!

    1. Rad Internet Stranger

      I’m sorry gumpsed?? Is that a word I’m too Australian to understand??

      1. I’m Australian too and I’m right with you there.

  19. I feel like this stunt might get adam thoroughly fussed at by the equivalent of HR and maybe even discharged from his internship YIKES.

  20. Eeeugh! Uncomfortable! It really really doesn’t help that he pulled hard enough to move Talita’s whole head – that’s not just some idle light tug šŸ™

    1. Makes my messed-up neck ache just looking at it!

  21. Really great sense of motion on this page, wow. The violence really comes across. Yeesh.

  22. MyUniverseinaBox

    Woof, did not expect that.

  23. I wonder if there are cameras in that building that caught this incident…

    1. I would be surprised if there weren’t honestly. I mean they do all essentially live inside of space crafts in a hostile environment.

      1. Yeah that’s how Bip is watching. Which might actually be a problem if the footage needs to be pulled up for review.

    2. Where I work, cameras are not installed in locker rooms, gowning/decon rooms, or bathrooms.

      1. i even considered this to factor into his choice to assault her here, in a semi-private space where he might not have a camera/radio isnt on… and maybe because hes gotten away with bullying yao without significant consequence/xe hasnt reported him, he thinks xe isnt a threat here either…

  24. It’s sort of a relief to see how dumb Adam actually is.
    I thought he would try a clever move, going to HR with a sob story how this giant creature grabbed him, while he tries to figure out how to be more efficient on the job.
    Instead he goes for a Kindergarten Level of getting back, to feels like he is in power again…. he’s almost to be pitied. (Unless he is smarter than he looks and tries to provoke a bigger reaction than this from Talita, but who knows.)
    I feel sorry for Yao and Talita though, it’s hard to give rise to a good group dynamic if you have such an toxic idiot in it.
    Talita is also not a good boss, she should never have been forced into this position, but this was probably a hindsight on Mel’s part, too.

  25. You still going to tell me idle curiosity is as much a crime as straight up laying your hands on someone? At least Yao wants to learn but you all seem like the kind of people who are the reason we have problems. You’re the people like Adam. You bully someone for asking questions you bully me.

    1. No one said that??

    2. Did you repost your comment?

    3. what?? /genq

      1. People considered Yao’s awkward questions on the last page to be inappropriate due to being about Talita’s body and thus Kinda Invasive, and they (not Yao, the commenter)(idk the pronouns) took that as a personal attack on themselves and their own autism and have been being inflammatory towards other commenters over it since.

    4. Curiosity is unfortunately not a good excuse for asking invasive questions about someone’s body, especially when you have made no attempt to befriend or otherwise connect with them in the past. When compared to Talita’s human friends, its clear she actually doesn’t care that much about them seeing her shed her velvet and in a comic she straight up gives a fallen antler to Idrisah. The problem is that Yao asked the question in an inappropriate setting, just out of the blue, and its one of the only things xe has even spoken to Talita. Yes, grabbing someone’s face is worse than asking a question, but Yao and Adam are just two sides of the spectrum of these humans not taking Talita’s personhood and her right to privacy seriously. They exist to contrast each other.

  26. TALITA SEND HIM TO MEL’S OFFICE AND HAVE HIM EXPELLED

  27. Aw hell, Adam’s Super Asshole Mode got activated. We were only at like 30% before but now he’s reaching 95%. Dangerous levels of assholery. Please Please call sophont resources on his ass oh my god

    also Yao looks so anxious nooo xey realized xey accidentally indirectly started something really bad noooo I’ve been in that situation ohhh it sucks

    ohhhh my god Adam ohhhh I need uhhhhhh (thinks of lighthearted not especially violent yet still conveys a great distaste verb) i need him exploded

  28. That guy has a strong desire for death. Did he fall out of his crib as a baby?

  29. valid to eat fingers valid to eat fingers valid to eat fingers v-

    1. not a human fingers! she’ll get sick if she eats alien meat!

    2. No! No eating human fingers! Human fingers are poison for Talita!
      Upending an entire carafe of water on Adam’s head, however, is justified, nonlethal, and satisfying to imagine.

      Fun fact: in German, “to wash sbd’s head” means giving them a good talking-to. Adam’s head needs washed. You agree.

    3. ghostwhitehorse

      Lucky for Adam, Talita is not Sgt. Shlock.

  30. With such a weak instinct for self-preservation, I wonder how Adam managed to live so long.
    Damn, it clear that he definitivly cross a line and Talita will not let that pass in any way. Now the question is if Mel will manage that propely… Pobably not, and Talita will not lets pass that too.

  31. lets all manifest Adam getting boiled in the next chapter

  32. Athelind Llewellyn Long

    The last time I saw an expression of stunned, unbelieving horror that intense was when Animal Man discovered the fourth wall.

  33. I have known so many Adams lmao. Poor Talita, I hope things start to look up for her soon

  34. I still dislike Adam more by how he’s written than how he acts. He’s built to be some perfect asshole. Too perfect. Annoyingly uncanny, not realistically annoying :/
    Can’t wait for the plot to progress past him already, he just doesn’t register as an actual character to me anymore.

    1. You know how some real life events are driven by such cartoonishly petty and mundane evil, that if it were written into a movie or TV show, anyone watching it would complain about how unrealistic it is?

      Well I’ve dealt with an Adam or several in my life.

      1. I too have, UNFORTUNATELY, had an Adam in my life at one point. Some people just seem to forever retain a childlike lack of emotional intelligence or critical thinking skills.

      2. I thought that when I became an adult, I wouldn’t have to deal with children like Adam any more. But, nope, all my life I’ve had to take this kind of crap from “adults” like Adam. And it’s so difficult to get anyone to do anything about them, often if you complain, you’re The Guy Who Got Someone Fired, and if you don’t straight up get blacklisted, nobody will talk to you or sit near you.

        Part of the reason Adam looks so smug is that he’s certain that he won’t face any consequences for this. And if this was mundane North American life, he probably wouldn’t.

    2. There are people in real life like this. I’m glad you’ve never had to experience them, but those of us who are part of marginalized populations have to deal with shit like this all the time.

    3. I’ve worked with multiple men like Adam, ranging from ā€œjustā€ micro aggressions to ongoing, severe safety violations that landed someone in the ER. I’ve had them joke about my health, and how much paperwork it would be if I died. I assure you, he’s distressingly well written.

  35. Well there’s your answer Talita. He DOES have a death wish!

  36. that is one face just begging to be punched
    (and or mauled)

  37. Report his ass into oblivion. Otherwise I’m going to trebuchet him into space myself. That’s straight up assault.

  38. Talita quit your job. Join bip’s emo band

  39. It looks like he didn’t even hesitate to grab the face of a two thousand pound predator and yank her jaws directly towards his face. Either he is way more suicidally idiotic than previously suggested, or he knows Talita well enough that he instinctively trusts her to not freak out and murder him, yet still chose to bully her. She is literally more than three times the size of a large tiger.

    1. “Adam should be scared of Talita because of her body” is not a pro-Talita stance.

      1. Commenters remember that Talita is a person and not a wild animal, challenge level impossible.

    2. Considering the comments Adam made about Talita in Chapter 2, I think Adam is trying to look brave by showing he’s not afraid of the scary hypercarnivore who he’s realized is a nonconfrontational ball of anxiety with no leadership skills.

  40. workplace abuse is fucked up. put this man in the torture nexus!!!!!!!

    1. I vote we put him in the centrifuge and make him dizzy lol

      1. evil coworkers get put in the pear wiggler

        1. I understood that reference šŸ‘†

        2. MyUniverseinaBox

          THE PEAR WIGGLERRR

      2. Run him out of town on a rail!
        (of course, that’s how almost everyone leaves dirtball …)

        1. Challenge mode: imagine a redemption arc for Adam, where he realizes what he’s been doing is wrong, and is motivated to become a better person.

  41. I GASPED when I saw this page – I guess this answer a question I’d been meaning to ask for the Q&A sessions, that humans just have no concept of boundaries and can/will randomly touch other non-GMA, non-human sophonts because in human brains they look ‘pettable’ cause we get like that with real life WILD animals and this comic clearly shows how absolutely not okay that is! I wish for karma to happen to Adam.

    1. Oh lord, I would definitely ask permission if I wanted to feel somone else’s fur but yeah the other sophonts integument looks SO SOFT 😭 I’ve had like old people randomly come up to me and touch my hair (I’m ginger and have extremely long hair) and I never know how to get out of the situation. I wonder if bug ferrets and centaurs would enjoy being scritched or having a human pick through their fur (like the allogrooming humans and most primates do with eachother) if they were close friends. I suspect bug ferrets would be more tolerant of it given they are very physically affectionate with eachother. But oh god this concern will now also be in my head, I hope humans don’t just run up to people and pet them normally.

    2. I mean, Adam is an individual making very specific choices, not a representative of the entire human species. Even Yao is appalled by his behavior.

  42. dammit adam
    I doubt Ixion will handle this well but part of me wonders if HR knows about Adam’s behavior *towards the other temps*. Like obviously it’s Talita’s choice to report how Adam treats her but if it turns out nobody told HR about the ‘yoinking Yao’s antlers’ incident I can see whoever handles this giving Talita a hard time for not intervening earlier.

  43. Get his ass in a SR (Sophont resources) meeting right now he needs reprimanding 😭 I desperately hope he gets fired/it goes Talitas way. That is no way to be treated, I agree with another commenter that they don’t seem so see her as a person or at least they don’t treat her with the human decency that she deserves. I wish I could give Talita a hug she deserves a raise.

    1. I need to study Adam’s brain I need to know why he thinks any of his impulsive acts are good ideas. I suspect he dosent really think before he does them. I can be pretty impulsive (because of adhd) but at least try my best and know not to dangerous stuff when in a professional setting. 😭

      1. In my experience, chronic lack of consequences has a lot to do with it

  44. Physical assault, go directly to the unemployment line.

  45. Strongly suspect the follow-up from Adam will be ā€œoh, but you can grab me?ā€ Worse since it’s not a bad point to mention that picking people up is generally bad, but the point is made horrid by the way he made it and the fact it’s… Adam.

    1. He would absolutely make this comment but the difference is clear he’s doing it to be a lil shit and she was making an impulsive decision because the situation was dangerous and could’ve easily turned fatal. Like it wasn’t the most rational thing to do but it was the quickest way to get him down immediately. I feel like intent of the two yoink moments matters a lot lol why can’t he understand 😭

    2. And also the fact that by her grabbing him, Talita probably averted a serious accident. Caused by Adam.
      In contrast, Adam yanking Talitas antler didn’t do anything good for anybody.

      1. Not only did him yanking on her face not help anyone, if she had pulled her head back out of reflex upon suddenly being grabbed, he would have gone flying. (He’d probably have whined about that, too.)

    3. Very much the kind of toddler brain we’re dealing with in Adam, yep.

  46. look i know talita isnt the kind of person that would bite his ass but i absolutely would

  47. I wonder what kind of person Adam would be if he learned from his mistakes and improved as a person?

    1. Excellent observation! What I like to tell people is, “you learn from zero percent of the mistakes you don’t admit making.”

  48. yaos so stressed out xe gained eyebrows lol

  49. Y’know when though our biologies aren’t compatible and Talita is nice, I wouldn’t do that to an apex predator. Jesus, what a dipshit.

    1. Accursed Dirt Boar

      I think he is doing explicitly cause Talita is an apex predator, she cant get too angry or else Adam can spin it in a way that benefits him, cause centaurs, do kinda have the power to kill a human relatively easily

      1. “I’m not scared of that stripey sock puppet,” was the quote, I believe…

    2. forget apex predators, do not do this to a goat, horse, buffalo, cow, or elephant. or hell just about anything, including humans, unless you enjoy getting bitten/kicked/scratched/punched as an instinctive startle response / anger response

  50. Accursed Dirt Boar

    Oh i can see his game plan here, he is gonna go like “does it mean YOU can lift me and drop me then?”
    And whit Mel being so passive is extremely likely nothing is gonna come out of this, Tali girly you need to get the hell out of here

    1. Athelind Llewellyn Long

      Yeah, she needs to run away. Like, to the stars.

      1. this got me REALLY good

  51. WOA adam you caint just YOINK someone!
    honestly šŸ™„

  52. Adam is really well written! I’ve worked with people like him.

    I’m interested to see how this is gonna be dealt with in the comic. šŸ˜€

  53. What the actual fuck Adam

  54. wouldnt this kinda be like pulling someones hair?

  55. Obviously physically jerking someone’s face is worse but the common issue here among her temps is that nobody in this group really sees Talita as a person. I don’t know if they interact with all sophonts this way, maybe not since Avians and Ferrets have more social power and would probably shut that down with quickness, but Talita has been made to feel insignificant her whole life by aliens and humans. The group of temps is like a gradient of people treating her more or less poorly. Adam being the worst, Yao being well-meaning but ultimately not taking Talita’s privacy/personhood into consideration to satisfy xer curiosity. Clayton treated her with a little more respect as an authority figure and with him gone, you really see how much this group sucks lol.

    1. Now that you mention it, I think Clayton treats her as “boss”, which is well and good for a professional setting but still isn’t quite the same as being treated as another person.

      1. Agreed. And Jay’s choice to remove Clayton from this situation feels very intentional, it makes me wonder about if Clay would be the one human to stand up to his coworker grabbing their “Boss” like this, or if he would’ve simply been a bystander or pretend to have not seen it. Or maybe Mr Facejerk over here felt even more emboldened to do that move because the only sensible person in the bunch isnt there.

        1. From personal experience, just having Clayton in the background looking uncomfortable with it might have made Adam think a little. In high school, there were several times where I would have gotten several ribs broken, or stuffed in a locker, or set on fire, or pushed into a lake, but the “hey watch this” guy was always in the back, not participating, radiating discomfort, and that ruined the vibe for his friends, without any verbal communication, ever, and they would lose all their motivation and wander off. He never even had to speak up… they knew him well enough, and apparently they knew, deep down, that he knew right from wrong better than they did.

  56. Mel is about to handle this situation soooo well.

  57. Yao standing back there like “ah shit I started this…”

    1. Yeaaaa I feel so bad for xem here… Im honestly wondering not just how Adam’s gonna spin this story but if the other temps will back him up on it or if they’ll take Talita’s side. I bet a bunch of them will try to avoid having any sort of opinion on the situation altogether, which would make me so mad… I have hope for Yao at least

    2. yao immediately shriveling up and looking away, too. ohh adam definitely bullies the shit out of xem off screen. to me it seems almost like xey’re panicking over what to say/do internally while fighting back against the urge to just stay quiet and not draw attention, mixed with the guilt for having started the conversation in the first place (and probably guilt for not standing up for talita immediately like she did for xem in the first chapter)

  58. MonstieMunchies

    I love Talitas hands in the 3rd and last panel, the tension! the angle! the complexities!

  59. I think Talita is legally allowed to eat him now.

  60. The kind of worst part is I think Adam recognizes on some level that he can only get away with this in this very specific circumstance (it being Talita and him also being able to say “well she did straight up grab / manhandle me this one time in front of all of my coworkers, I thought it was cool to just start doing this”), regardless of if Talita lodges a complaint or not and regardless of the fact that it’s still rude (like sure, you don’t technically have blood in your teeth / don’t feel them the same way you do your fingers but that doesn’t mean that people should try grabbing and yanking those either).

    Had it been a a Centaur that wasn’t Talita (very much socialized around humans), I could see this going very differently (and some part of me hopes that if Adam somehow manages to stick around long enough to see other Centaurs that he gets schooled very quickly by said Centaurs).

  61. I really hope there are repercussions for his actions, not just this but his general recklessness too. but I have a feeling things won’t go Talitas way

  62. Hooooooooboy… I genuinely wasn’t expecting him to physically assault Talita like that. I know he grabbed Yao’s horns from xem earlier in the comic, but this is a whole new level of yuck. I guess the foreshadowing was there all along… dayum. Adam is very lucky that Talita knows her strength and is not interested in eye for an eye.

    Jay I am SO sorry you have to deal with the absolute trash happening in your comment section right now. You have every right to disable comments on certain pages if you have the capability. I wouldn’t blame you for it.

    Depicting these scenarios is incredibly important for the world setting and I applaud you for handling these kinds of topics. I wish people were acting more mature about it.

    1. didnt he also grab phoebes ears? or am i just misremembering him. i know he was calling her a biomodder / gmh

      1. he didn’t grab phoebe’s ears, but did make snide comments about her being a GMH when she isn’t

  63. … at the very least, he just sunk whatever chance of winning management over he had to begin with. And yes, I’m hoping that he won’t get to present it as “damn alien fired me, the entire team knew they didn’t like us humans” to whoever his next employer may be.

    (Aside: Is it just me, or is the transcript on this page not collapsable as usual?)

    1. That happened two or three updates ago, too, but was fixed (fixed itself? Idk) a day or two later.

      1. It’s fixed now, actually …

  64. FuzzySpiderPawz

    Ohhhh goddddd I had a bad feeling this was gonna happen. I’m sincerely hoping Adam gets his ass fired over this omg.

  65. 😬😬😬

  66. Quick moment for how COOL this page is laid out, adds so much to the emotion of the scene, really well done!!! ARGGGGGH WE HATE YOU ADAM!!!!

  67. OH MY GOD HE REALLY WENT THERE
    OH MY GOD THEY AREN’T GOING TO FIRE HIM ARE THEY
    OH MY GOD

  68. TotallySomebody

    Woah! That’s ASSAULT

  69. OOOH HIS SMILE PISSES ME OFF…… ADAM WHEN I GET YOU ADAM

    1. You are bullying me by bullying a character like me. You don’t treat Yao like a criminal for wanting knowledge. Not allowing people to ask questions is how you get people like Adam.

      1. i am not bullying you, im sorry but please leave me alone if you are going to come after me like this for gently criticizing a fictional character. i did not treat yao like a criminal and i dont appreciate you putting words into my mouth or others. i am not ‘not allowing people to ask questions”. please leave me alone and stop being so aggressive towards me. i dont like being projected onto or made assumptions of. and unlike yao i am not fictional but a real person with real feelings so please respect that.

        1. i like yao. i was pointing out last page how yao is making talita uncomfortable. the narrative and images in the comic pages shows how talita looks uncomfortable. does that make yao a ‘criminal’? no. and i never implied it did in any way at all, you are jumping to conclusions. i didnt say yao couldnt ask questions i just pointed out how xer question was invasive. thats all. it is a simple observation and me pointing it out doesnt make me a bully and i dont appreciate you saying it does. good lord. yao was probably not even meaning to make talita uncomfy but that was what happened. it was a social blunder at most and that fine i dont expect perfection irl or in my comics, least of all my comics, i welcome a flawed character. what i expect is not to get attacked for making observations and then harrassed with untrue assumptions about my character.

  70. Man, genuinely, major props to Jay for making Adam sooooooooo detestable lmao. I’ve seen fictional bullies who are written as exaggerated monsters, and that’s fine enough, but the scope of Adam’s assholery is relatively small–he’s realistic enough to be TRULY infuriating. Not everyone knows a monster irl, but I’d wager that almost everyone knows an Adam.

    1. You’ve nailed it.

    2. Yeah, genuinely great characterisation. I know several Adams, for one. They all are rather believable characters. Who hasn’t met or been an Idrisah, with her conflict between her love for her family and her desire for independence? A Mel, well meaning but kinda bad at it? A Gillie, just wanting to be genuinely included for once instead of a charity project? A Clayton, Yao, Talita? I’ve met all of them with different faces in real life. Even Ohwitiil and Cheevwut, on-again-off-again love/hate relationship included. Luckily, they didn’t work together.

      Which, do you reckon Cheevwut is to Ohwitiil what Adam is to Talita? They seem to really, really enjoy riling Ohwitiil up, and I think that’s much of Adams motivation in this scene.

      1. cheev’s got a whole different thing going on with ohwitill which can be summed up as “securing that gilf bag”, i don’t think theyre on a level close to adam here

        1. Yeah, but in their own words part of the appeal is very much testing how much they can get away with and have Ohwitiil still at their door come spring. Cheev is definitely not nice in this (not that they need to be – what a fictional character has to be is interesting. Beyond that, anything goes. Not that you don’t know that, but I feel it needs to be said: I do not object to the actions of any of the characters. I do in fact greatly resemble the “Sickos at the window ‘Ha ha, yes!'” -meme right now, even though I feel great sympathy for Talita and also Yao in this situation)

      2. I think its similar in the way you pointed out, the “i want to rile this person up” desire, but I think they come from different places/motivations. While Cheevwut does make jabs at Ohwitiil from what we’ve seen it doesn’t seem to quite come the place of genuine resentment that Adam has for Talita particularly after she’s now grabbed him and yelled at him in front of the other temps. Difference of “I enjoy messing with this person I’ve been working with for awhile” versus “I’m mad this person I have no respect/think I know better than for has a position above me”

    3. This is how kids bullied me in school, violating my personal boundaries and acting all innocent when teachers called them out on it.

  71. Undercooked Mothman

    Invasive questions into invasive touching, this shit suucks. poor talita šŸ™

  72. Seastarcrunchies

    He’s going to come in with some “you grabbed me so I get to grab you” bs isn’t he? -_-

  73. So, the answer to the question on page 225 appears to be “yes”. Seriously, dude, there’s no situation where this is even remotely acceptable workplace behaviour. At this point she really needs to just say “pack your bags, you’re on the next launch out of here”. And if she’s not backed up by management on this, she needs to leave herself. Which, I guess the story has been building to, so that’s just another motivation to get off that rock.

    1. If Talita does go to HR about it, Adam can hit back with the fact she grabbed him off the ladder… completely different situations, and Adam grabbing her antler is malicious, but still a problem there.

      1. No sane HR would have a problem with someone physically preventing someone else from putting themselves in mortal danger. The sanity of HR on dirtball remains to be determined, though.

        1. We know that Cheevwut does payroll, so maybe they also do HR? And judging by their, ahem, tumultous relationship with Ohwitiil they may or may not react appropriately to minor workplace assaults.

      2. I feel like this is part of Adam’s plan, yeah. He sees this yanking as ā€œjustifiedā€ because Talita grabbed him off the ladder. Of course we have the full context and it’s obvious to us that the situations are completely different, but if he’s charismatic and liked by the HR people he might be able to dodge discipline…

  74. Well that’s just rude and disrespectful

    And of course just because she can’t feel him touching her antler doesn’t mean she can’t feel her head being yanked around by it

    1. Yeah, my hair is completely insensate. You can cut it, and I won’t feel a thing – my hairdresser does so regularly. Still doesn’t make yanking it painless, on account of it’s attached to my skin which very much does have nerve endings. What even, Adam.

      Also, what a good and believable portrayal of your average petty bully. This is the kind of thing you’d see on any schoolyard. I love to hate him.

    2. Yeah, I mean the bone itself may not hurt her but his arm is so tense, there is significant force behind that pull. The neck is so easy to be sprained

  75. ADAM’S ACTIVATED HIS HATE CRIME SUPER

    1. this is a really good comment

  76. Adam is lucky that Tailita isn’t the kinda person who would have hit him back for that kind of thing. I feel a large number of other centaurs might do something like that.

    1. Very true, and oh yes

      Actually got me looking forward to the day he might encounter one and do something like that to them. Can you imagine if he treated a matriarch with that sort of disrespect?

      1. Oh, hey, aren’t we all expected a clan of centaur temps soon? Imagine he tries to pull the same crap, not realizing what a timid sweetheart Talita is …

        1. Oh geez, here’s hoping!

    2. I mean, I likely would have reflexively kicked or swung at someone randomly jerking my head around. He’s very lucky she didn’t have that entirely warranted response.

      1. I bet if Talita wanted to, she could lift up at least two entire adult humans worth with her neck muscles alone, just by throwing back her head. Adam is lucky his grip strength isn’t enough to hold onto that antler.

  77. The “yoink” heard around the galaxy.

  78. I KNEW IT! I F’ING KNEW HE WAS GONNA DO THAT! I CALLED IT!

    Also I have to say, you did a very good job with drawing the expressions, jay! Talita’s faces in each of the panels are the exact ones i made while reading each one, and that stupid little face of Adam’s looks more punchable than ever!

  79. Wow Adam, how emotionally mature of you -_-

    Also since the root of the antler is still attached and has some blood supply (kind of like a nail bed I think I could be mistaken) Adam yanking on it probably wasn’t the most comfortable sensation.

  80. I could see it coming and it’s still stressful to see! Poor Talita….

  81. I KNEW HE’D PULL SOME STUPID SHIT. SMUG SHIT IN THE LAST PANEL

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